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Salima Saxton

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147 total appearances

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The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

But they were happy in their early years, at least. I hadn't had this kind of education, by the way. I'd been to a state school. I'd ended up at Cambridge. I'd really been like a happy geek at school. And sometimes Carl and I wondered what we were doing, kind of pushing ourselves to such an extent to make sure that our kids went to that kind of school.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

But they were happy in their early years, at least. I hadn't had this kind of education, by the way. I'd been to a state school. I'd ended up at Cambridge. I'd really been like a happy geek at school. And sometimes Carl and I wondered what we were doing, kind of pushing ourselves to such an extent to make sure that our kids went to that kind of school.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

I think it was another idea of ours to be safe, to be successful. But there wasn't much joy in all of this, you know. We were just like busy frantically scrabbling up this hill all the time. Yet we had the kitchen island. We did have linen napkins, but they were grubby and they were mainly kept in the back of the kitchen cupboard.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

I think it was another idea of ours to be safe, to be successful. But there wasn't much joy in all of this, you know. We were just like busy frantically scrabbling up this hill all the time. Yet we had the kitchen island. We did have linen napkins, but they were grubby and they were mainly kept in the back of the kitchen cupboard.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

I think it was another idea of ours to be safe, to be successful. But there wasn't much joy in all of this, you know. We were just like busy frantically scrabbling up this hill all the time. Yet we had the kitchen island. We did have linen napkins, but they were grubby and they were mainly kept in the back of the kitchen cupboard.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

So that Valentine's evening, when Carl said to me he couldn't live like this anymore, it cut through all of it. He kept saying to me, Do you love me? Can you still love me? Do you love me? And I kept saying, you are loved. Oh my God, you're so loved. I felt angry. I felt angry at him. I felt angry at me.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

So that Valentine's evening, when Carl said to me he couldn't live like this anymore, it cut through all of it. He kept saying to me, Do you love me? Can you still love me? Do you love me? And I kept saying, you are loved. Oh my God, you're so loved. I felt angry. I felt angry at him. I felt angry at me.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

So that Valentine's evening, when Carl said to me he couldn't live like this anymore, it cut through all of it. He kept saying to me, Do you love me? Can you still love me? Do you love me? And I kept saying, you are loved. Oh my God, you're so loved. I felt angry. I felt angry at him. I felt angry at me.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

How could we have got this so wrong that the boy in the ill-fitting suit was asking me whether I still loved him? I phoned our family doctor and who said that she thought Carl was having a breakdown and that he needed medication and respite immediately. I phoned a friend whose husband had had a breakdown a few years earlier, and I remember standing on the front lawn in my pajamas.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

How could we have got this so wrong that the boy in the ill-fitting suit was asking me whether I still loved him? I phoned our family doctor and who said that she thought Carl was having a breakdown and that he needed medication and respite immediately. I phoned a friend whose husband had had a breakdown a few years earlier, and I remember standing on the front lawn in my pajamas.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

How could we have got this so wrong that the boy in the ill-fitting suit was asking me whether I still loved him? I phoned our family doctor and who said that she thought Carl was having a breakdown and that he needed medication and respite immediately. I phoned a friend whose husband had had a breakdown a few years earlier, and I remember standing on the front lawn in my pajamas.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

It was dark, it was freezing cold, and I was kind of whispering into the phone so that my kids wouldn't hear, so the neighbors wouldn't hear, I mean, who cares? So I realized that things had to change really quickly. This life of ours that we had created was a weight around us, and Carl in particular was gasping at the surface for air.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

It was dark, it was freezing cold, and I was kind of whispering into the phone so that my kids wouldn't hear, so the neighbors wouldn't hear, I mean, who cares? So I realized that things had to change really quickly. This life of ours that we had created was a weight around us, and Carl in particular was gasping at the surface for air.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

It was dark, it was freezing cold, and I was kind of whispering into the phone so that my kids wouldn't hear, so the neighbors wouldn't hear, I mean, who cares? So I realized that things had to change really quickly. This life of ours that we had created was a weight around us, and Carl in particular was gasping at the surface for air.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

I had to change things immediately, I knew it, so I told Carl that. I said that we were going to move to my childhood home, that we were going to take the kids out of the school, and we were going to do things very differently and look after him. He'd always looked after us. So I did that. It was a bit like triage, I suppose. I gave notice to the school. I started to pack up the house.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

I had to change things immediately, I knew it, so I told Carl that. I said that we were going to move to my childhood home, that we were going to take the kids out of the school, and we were going to do things very differently and look after him. He'd always looked after us. So I did that. It was a bit like triage, I suppose. I gave notice to the school. I started to pack up the house.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

I had to change things immediately, I knew it, so I told Carl that. I said that we were going to move to my childhood home, that we were going to take the kids out of the school, and we were going to do things very differently and look after him. He'd always looked after us. So I did that. It was a bit like triage, I suppose. I gave notice to the school. I started to pack up the house.

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

And then I would drive out of London with my car filled to the brim to set up my kids' bedrooms in advance of us moving. I would do that at that end. I would go to the tip, visit schools, and then drive home to London sobbing. I felt like I'd taken a shrinking pill. I felt like everyone in London with their game faces was saying, who did you think you were trying to live this big life?

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

And then I would drive out of London with my car filled to the brim to set up my kids' bedrooms in advance of us moving. I would do that at that end. I would go to the tip, visit schools, and then drive home to London sobbing. I felt like I'd taken a shrinking pill. I felt like everyone in London with their game faces was saying, who did you think you were trying to live this big life?

The Level Up Podcast w/ Paul Alex
The Realities of Balancing Growth and Profit

And then I would drive out of London with my car filled to the brim to set up my kids' bedrooms in advance of us moving. I would do that at that end. I would go to the tip, visit schools, and then drive home to London sobbing. I felt like I'd taken a shrinking pill. I felt like everyone in London with their game faces was saying, who did you think you were trying to live this big life?