Sally Hayden
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649 appearances
5 recordings
3 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 21 Jun
Sally Hayden’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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They definitely had no communication.
There's no way to get between these two places.
And they both had this really just extraordinary story of suddenly coming up with a way to try and escape from this situation and to protect their children.
Yeah, I have, I think quite a few people anyway.
And it was a strange experience.
They've obviously just committed like unbelievable atrocities.
And I think that one strange thing was that because quite a few of them have surrendered now.
So they're actually living kind of among communities again.
And that was where I met them.
And they said, you know, one man told me, I think his story is in the book that he had basically joined because he needed money.
He wanted to feed his children.
So, I mean, there's some stories there that I felt people can kind of make up their mind themselves as to how they feel about this and what's their reaction.
But I thought that that was, I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah, so she was a woman that I met in exactly 2014.
She was already quite old then.
Her exact age, I mean, she showed me her ID card, but I'm not totally certain if it was right, but she was definitely very elderly and she...
had this story which you know has been actually covered by quite a lot of people she's been received medals and all things like that so um she basically like she came from this family of kind of traditional healers and when the uh who's who's were you know
I'm sure people know about the genocide.
They kind of had militias that were going around just massacring people and she hid dozens of tutsis inside her house.
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