Sally Hayden

Can you do something on this?

And that's what I see is happening.

important or when, you know, we have a link to it when we're our policies, for example, or our, you know, funding or whatever it is, is playing some sort of role in a situation.

And I see that as important to, you know, to report on.

But yeah, I think that I'm

it's not that I'm pushing my way into situations and making people speak to me.

And I think certainly the more experienced I've got, the more I've been certain that I don't, that's not how I want to be.

I don't, I want to move as gently as I possibly can.

I don't want to, you know,

Yeah, I think a part of it comes from just responsibility to the people that you interview and feeling like you don't want, like, if they want to speak, of course, you want to help them speak, but you don't want to make their lives worse.

And that's, you know, it's a work in progress.

I think that all journalists who...

don't question themselves, particularly doing this type of reporting.

I think that that's the most dangerous, probably, that we all need to be, like, self-reflective and wondering, am I doing this right?

Should I change the way that I act?

Should I, you know, rethink this or that?

And, yeah, if I felt like I was doing more harm than good, then I think definitely, like, I wouldn't want to continue.

Right.

You know, just...

Thank you so much.