Sally Hayden

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649 appearances 5 recordings 3 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 21 Jun

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So this book has actually been like a very, very long time in the making.
I had that idea in 2018 originally.
And I think that I kind of became a journalist 2013, 2014, depending on where you measure from.
And even after a few years, like I've always been an international reporter.
I've reported, you know, particularly on human rights abuses, on
inequality, exploitation, you know, suffering of vulnerable people in lots of different situations.
And like by 2018, I was thinking, you know, this doesn't really tell the whole story.
And so you'll be in, you know, some horrific situation where people are kind of having to make choices that you can't
often possibly imagine having to make yourself and and in those situations you'll still see love and you'll still see not just love for you know romantic partners but love for family members for friends even for community for neighbors um even what i you know what i kind of describe in the book as being love for humanity just people doing good things for people they don't even know
And I felt like it would be good to collect those stories.
And I think maybe listeners know or some of them would know that I wrote a previous book.
So I had the idea for this book in early 2018.
And then I started getting messages from refugees in Libyan detention centers in August 2018.
And that reporting kind of took over my life.
So for years, I was just reporting every single day on what was happening there.
And
When that came out as a book eventually in 2022, I then started thinking again, you know, like I love journalism and I believe in the importance of journalism and I love working for the Irish Times.
But also sometimes you feel like, you know, even for you to be able to process what you're seeing and what you're
And to be able to show what's happening in the world, you don't have enough space always in an article or in a news report.
And so I started thinking again about this idea of a book about love and I returned to it.
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