Sam Alexander

For what I would want on this gun, at least.

I'll fucking tell you one thing.

This rifle already doesn't recoil, so adding more weight to it just means that extra doesn't recoil, but...

So I was going back and forth through options and we were going to talk about some optic choices tonight.

So since I've got an LPVO in front of me, I really like LPVOs.

It is like the about do it all optic for pretty much every purpose out there.

The only downside to them is that sometimes they start stacking a lot of weight on your gun, and they can be a little more fragile than other options, depending on how they're dropped or how they're hit or so on and so forth.

Or how they're shot.

Well, that, yes.

and this is where i have had optic failures with lpvos is it riding in a case or riding in a truck or i've never done it like walking around with one in the woods but having something bash either end of it hard enough to cause the scope to actually slip inside the rings and they weren't they were torques they were torqued properly but it did get it wasn't no it was the gideon optics one that i'm going to give you to test out it took a hit on the front that didn't damage the optic

but it was just enough to shift the scope like a 32nd of an inch inside the rings, which then threw my relief off.

So that's like, to me, that's their biggest failure mechanism is the fact that you have a, your optic is more or less just friction mounted in the mount.

Also the mount being a weak point because the,

Arrow makes those really lightweight mounts that our buddy Vince has seen bend on the range.

This mount, this Swamp Fox mount, this one came with, for some reason, on my...

ar it mounts up crooked so somewhere the spec between the rail on that upper and the mount don't agree with each other um and then when i was doing drop tests with the other gideon optic that i shot that one's rail bent i'm on the drop tests i'd also bent the optic housing but you know neither here nor there

The only downside I see between that is if that material wears out over time or like squishes and compresses.

And then you, I don't know.

That's one of those things where if it doesn't call to have extra crap in between the mountain, the optic, why put it there?

yeah i was just thinking about the extra friction yeah you would um hey so i like lpvos because i think for me magnification is mandatory that comes with living in colorado where you know we have nice open sight lines here living in pennsylvania a little bit different anywhere in the midwest with lots of trees would change that metric for me um