Sam Edmund

I don't think they've got a closed mind.

But I think the point the juror is making, and he has spoken to people being managers of potential clients out there, that type of thing, potential coaches out there, that type of thing, that they are saying that if the Hurd thing isn't cleared up and they're

particular client is running against James Heard, then they don't have a chance.

But I'm in your camp.

I would say back yourself.

Back yourself 100%.

If you believe that you want to coach, get there.

Get there before the panel, whoever they might be, and

Convince them that you are the right person to coach the Essendon Football Club.

And the other point about – I heard Caro say about Paul Little.

Now, the thing, you know, that he's this figure that looms in the background and he supports James Heard and therefore –

he'll push for james to be the coach well paul who i respect enormously he did that last time and i went on the record and i said that i had a call from paul around this about the fact that he was at that stage he was pushing for james this is before they named brad scott to be coach of eston he was pushing for uh james to be the coach strongly and trying to gather forces uh behind and

That's fine.

He can do that.

But he was defeated last time.

That thing didn't get over the line last time.

So I don't know why there are people out there believing that it would be different this time around.

Yeah.

Well, again, as I said... And if James is the best candidate, he is the best candidate.

And he is more than willing.