Sam Gruet

And our reliance on the material has come with an unforeseen problem.

Insia shows me through a sliding door into a smaller workshop.

What do you want to show me then?

On top of a wooden surface is a collection of small bowls containing white pellets.

OK, I didn't think I'd be coming into contact with an actual petri dish today, but... Yeah, exactly.

This is science.

This is taking me back to my days at school.

And so what's in that material then?

We're looking at a big metal machine.

Oh wow, and there are bags and bags of them here.

It's this product which is moulded into the final item.

And if I was to pick this up in a supermarket, I've got it in my hand now.

I don't know if you can hear it.

I'm

I'm sort of squidging it between my fingers.

But you're telling me this is not plastic?

So what we should say now is we're looking at an array of bottles and these ones don't look as in quite good condition as the one that I was holding in my hand.

And there's a lot of talk about a plastic-free economy and a global economy that exists without this big reliance on plastics.

Do you see that as something achievable in your lifetime or you're in your business's lifetime?

Before I leave, I ask Insia a question that she says she gets a lot.