Sam Harris

And that was understandable for many reasons.

Yeah, I think Trump derangement syndrome is a very clever meme because it just...

throws the problem back on the person who's criticizing Trump.

But in truth, the true Trump derangement syndrome was not to have seen how dangerous and divisive it would be to promote someone like Trump to that position of power.

And in the final moment, not to see how...

untenable it was to still support someone who you know a sitting president who was not committing to a peaceful transfer of power i mean that was if if if that wasn't a bright line for you you have been deranged by something uh because that was you know the that was one minute to midnight for our democracy as far as i i'm concerned and i think it really was but for

the integrity of a few people that we didn't suffer some real constitutional crisis and real emergency after January 6th.

I mean, if Mike Pence had caved in and decided to not certify the election, right?

Literally, you can count on two hands the number of people who held things together at that moment.

And so it wasn't for want of trying on Trump's part that we...

didn't succumb to some real, truly uncharted catastrophe with our democracy.

So the fact that that didn't happen is not a sign that those of us who were worried that it was so close to happening were exaggerating the problem.

I mean, it's like you almost got run over by a car

but you didn't.

And so, you know, the fact that you're adrenalized and you're thinking, you know, but boy, that was dangerous.

I probably shouldn't, you know, wander in the middle of the street with my eyes closed.

You weren't wrong to feel that you really had a problem, right?

And came very close to something truly terrible.

So I think that's where we were, and I think we shouldn't do that again, right?

So the fact that he's still, he's coming back around as potentially a viable candidate,