Sam Harris

You don't think so?

No, I mean, I haven't tried with Candace, but I've tried with many people who are in that particular orbit.

I mean, I've had conversations with people who,

won't admit that there's anything wrong with Trump, anything.

But he has so few of them.

He has fewer good qualities than virtually anyone I can name, right?

So, he's funny.

I'll grant you that he's funny.

He's a good entertainer.

Does others look at just policies and actual impacts he had?

I've admitted that.

No, no.

So, I've admitted that many of his policies I agree with.

Many, many of his policies.

I mean, so...

Probably more often than not, at least on balance, I agreed with his policy that we should take China seriously as an adversary.

And I think, again, there's a lot of fine print to a lot of this because the way he talks about these things and many of his motives that are obvious are things that I don't support.

But take immigration.

I think it's obvious that we should have control of our borders.

I don't see the argument for not having control of our borders.