Sam Harris

They don't always feel good to the recipient, right?

There is a sort of wisdom that you can wield compassionately in moments like that where someone's full of shit and you just make it absolutely clear to them and to your audience that they're full of shit.

And there's no hatred being communicated.

In fact, you could just, it's like, listen, I'm gonna do everyone a favor right now and

You know, just take your foot out of your mouth.

And the truth is, you know, I just wouldn't have aired the conversation.

Like, I just don't think it was a document that had to get out there, right?

I get that many people, this is not a signal you're likely to get from your audience, right?

Like, I get that many people in your audience thought, oh my God, that's awesome.

You're talking to Kanye and you're doing it in Lex style where it's just love and you're not treating him like a pariah.

And you're holding this tension between he's this creative genius whose work we love, and yet he's having this moment that's so painful.

And what a tightrope walk.

And I get that maybe 90% of your audience saw it that way.

They're still wrong.

And I still think that was, on balance, not a good thing to put out into the world.

If it does, it's opening it up in the wrong direction where just gale force nonsense is coming in, right?

I think we should have an open mind and an open heart, but there's some clear things here that...

that we have to keep in view.

One is the mental illness component is its own thing.

I don't pretend to understand what's going on with him.