Sam Harris

So as mayor, what have you learned about governance that seems transferable to the larger stage of governor?

So yeah, on that point of around the cost of things, I want to talk about many of these specific issues like homelessness and just the fiscal situation in California.

But it does mystify people that we're one of the highest taxed states, one of the wealthiest states.

We spend a tremendous amount of money on our problems, and yet

certainly the public perception is that we don't get a lot for that spend, right?

There's some kind of curse of inefficiency here that seems visited upon California in a way that is worse than other states.

Can you just generically, can you explain why, I mean, if this perception's at all wrong, I'd love to know that, but if in fact there's just a tremendous amount of waste and inefficiency, is there a generic answer as to why that's the case here?

What can the governor do to perform surgery on all that?

We'll get back to homelessness, because I think that's really top of mind for many Californians.

But let's start with wealth inequality, because this billionaire wealth tax has absorbed a lot of oxygen of late.

How concerned are you about wealth inequality?

Actually linger on the mechanics of that a little bit, because it's, I think it's not obvious.

for people who haven't thought it through why this is so unwieldy and why it has perverse incentives.

So let's just do a dissection of the wealth tax.

I mean, I'm quite concerned about wealth inequality, but it seems fairly obvious that this approach to solving that problem is going to backfire.

Yeah.

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I mean, it's been fairly widely reported that many very wealthy people, actually not just billionaires, are finding some backup plan should this happen.

If it reaches the ballot, does it seem almost guaranteed to pass in the current?