Sam Harris

So you are, by all appearances, a very level-headed, not ideological, certainly not, you know, woke activist.

sort of politician, and yet California has been governed by, I mean, it's basically been a one-party state for as long as I've been alive, and that's had certain consequences.

How do you view the political challenge now and just in the remaining days before the primary and

And should you clear that hurdle?

The primary is June 2nd?

That's right.

Yeah, so we don't have much time in messaging into this environment around just solving problems and not giving any energy to activist delusions.

How are you...

Walking that tightrope to take part of the question you just asked me.

I mean, so it's like the current California governor, Gavin Newsom, is obviously running for president and feeling the need to, to a degree that I think is probably ultimately counterproductive, play a very...

trollish, partisan, and not altogether, you know, seemly political game with the cartoon character who's running the country.

It's understandable.

I mean, he's getting a lot of attention for doing that.

But he's also, in my mind, not an especially viable candidate because of his history of having to pander to the very activists, you know, far left interests in our state, right?

I mean, he's never had to run

a national election.

He's had to run for governor, and to run for governor, he's had to, again, pander to things that he might not have fully believed at the time, or if he believed at the time, certainly can't avow now.

I mean, some of the extremely far-left positions that we're all too familiar with, you know, the

ruled our culture about five years ago.

What I think most Californians who I know are desperate for is something like a hard reset on our political culture here.