Sam Harris

There's a model that can detect, you know, bugs that human developers haven't detected for even decades, you know, in their code base, you know, whether it's an operating system or whatever.

It just, you know, apparently within, you know, seconds is finding exploits everywhere.

You know, you'd think when they see the blackmail example... So let's spend a little time on that.

How would you summarize...

where we are now with AI and the kinds of surprising behaviors or perhaps behaviors that shouldn't surprise us that are alarming people.

But the thing that, again, I've thought about this enough in the vein in which I've thought about it for now at least 10 years, where it was obvious to me, I don't consider myself especially close to the intellectual underpinnings of any of this technology, right?

I'm just a consumer of technology.

the news on some level with respect to AI.

But you were right and reasoned about it philosophically and was able to get to the right conclusions.

It was just so obvious that if the moment you can see that intelligence is not substrate dependent, that we're going to build actual intelligence in our machines, given what intelligence is, you should expect things like deception and manipulation and the formation of instrumental goals that you can't foresee.

And certainly when you're imagining building something that is smarter than we are.

That's right.

Right.

Or that's just as, that's only as smart as we are, but just works a million times faster, right?

So that every time, I mean, just how would this conversation go if every time I uttered a sentence, you functionally had two weeks to decide on your next sentence?

Correct.

Right?

You would obviously be the smartest person I'd ever met.

So speed alone is enough to just completely outclass you and intelligent.

You have to envision this as a relationship to a mind that is autonomous.