Sam Harris

Yes.

And, and then, then you add things like, you know, recursive self-improvement and all, and then all of a sudden, you know, we're in, you know, some dystopian science fiction, if this is not perfectly aligned.

That's right.

You know,

But there's also, it does seem like there is still a barrier to internalizing any of these examples with the appropriate emotional response.

It's like, I mean, there, again, this is, I come back to

with the way this struck me the first time I started thinking about it 10 years ago.

In my TED talk on this topic in 2016, I remember starting with the problem, which is as worried as I can be about this for the next 18 minutes, all of this is fun to think about.

Like this is not the same thing as being told that actually your landscape has been contaminated by radioactive waste, you know, and you can't live there for the next 10,000 years.

Okay, that just sucks.

There's nothing fun about that, right?

Right.

Here, we're sort of in the first act of the movie that is getting a little fun.

And these are just, you know, these examples produce laughter as much as anything else.

It's honestly fun to think about getting killed by robots.

I mean, it's in a way that nothing else that is equally threatening is fun.

Okay, but the thing that is most compelling to people, the thing that they can't break free of, I think, is the logic of the arms race, given that some of the people in the race, I mean, forget about the arms race between our companies that may or may not be run to one or another degree by

you know, highly non-optimal, you know, and in some cases, even psychopathic people, right?

So like- The system has selected for the psychopathic people.

We've got a problem with some of the people who are in charge in our own case, but- That's right.