Sam Harris

I now bring you Karl Robichaux.

I am here with Karl Robichaux.

Karl, thanks for joining me.

Nice.

Well, I'm a big fan of the work you're doing, although I've only just encountered it.

But you are an expert on, it seems, much that ails us with respect to nuclear weapons and proliferation and failures of containment and all of that.

So we're having this conversation 24 hours after I watched Oppenheimer in an IMAX theater, which I highly recommend to people.

I recommend people go to the movie theater to see this movie.

Have you seen it?

It's really some kind of masterpiece.

Perhaps you can alert me to anything that gets wrong with respect to the history, but not noticing any errors.

It's quite amazing.

Everything from the performances to the writing to the sound design, it's really worth it.

Again, in a theater, it's really required to appreciate it.

Yeah, I mean, it could be that I'm so aware of the second order effects that I felt that the film sort of properly invoked them by ignoring them.

But yeah, I mean, as you say, this is very much from Oppenheimer's eye view of the situation and what he averts his eyes from and

And the stuff that sort of invades his consciousness as he's trying to give a speech.

And I thought it was just very effective at portraying the cognitive dissonance and the conflict.

It's pretty brilliant.

Especially the sound design that happens there.