Sam Kamani

Just understanding how money works and how money moves around the world.

Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, what specific gap did you see in the yield market that inspire or even any other gaps that you saw in crypto that inspired you to build IO labs or your protocol?

But then how do you calculate that?

I know you said that there's lots of variables that go into it.

Are there any key or main ones that you look at or that you guys look at?

And what would those be?

Yeah, absolutely.

Because there is so much that goes into DeFi and, you know, it like anything decentralized moves so, so fast that it's so hard to keep up for for any any normal human being unless you are knee deep into the industry.

But that's how it feels like.

So, yeah.

So, you know, like what does the real user experience?

Look like who, who are your main sort of users?

Are they individuals?

Are they institutional?

Are they finance?

Yes.

About the type of users, the type of people who use bio.xyz.

So yeah, we were talking about that.