Sam Kamani

So please continue from there.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

And what are some like, you know, like AI has really disrupted the whole trading side of things, especially algorithmic trading.

It's always was there, you know, all computers or algorithms was always used, but it's kind of democratized it and everyone can now, you know, build things.

on cloud or cloud code on things like that.

How is that changing your industry or things on the yield side?

Yeah, absolutely.

But you know, I'm just like personally, I work with AI.

It's like day two user of open AI and use cloud extensively and build things in it, but still very scared with giving access, even though I understand things, but I'm still very scared giving access to any AI, access to crypto.

I don't know.

Am I getting too old and too conservative or what's wrong?

Yeah, what's your personal opinion in that?

I use it for building, but giving money, even though there are lots of things like X402 and things that are made for AI to, you know, transmit money and all those things.

I think the jury is still out to see.

I think

what are some other trends you are seeing currently when it comes to yield or yield optimization or things like that in this space?

natural evolution today we're using creators we should not be using creators as much in a decentralized world yeah yeah absolutely and you know how i've seen like the industry evolve like just from like plain staking to restaking and then liquid staking and then vaults and all that what do you think will come next in this industry like as in with defy and all that

Yeah, before coming into Web3, I ran a business in the Web2 world in e-commerce and things like that.

And most businesses, they have to manage things like cash flow and they have, they need some sort of a buffer to, I mean, good business people try and keep a buffer for managing that cash flow and they have money set aside.

Just thinking about it, it's like it would make so much sense.