Sam Kamani

I mean, back when I started in 2007, there was no such thing as DeFi.

But now in this day and age, it would make so much sense for any small business to put that money in on-chain assets and then have it so much more liquid and accessible.

It's like you couldn't do that with a bank.

You have to fix for, you know, if you want good interest rate, you want to you have to fix for six months, five years, two years, whatever.

And then it's no longer a cash flow.

It's like a different type of asset.

Whereas DeFi gives so much flexibility.

Why haven't we seen millions of businesses, like tens of millions of small businesses around the world or big businesses, medium-sized, everyone going towards DeFi and just using things and have that flexibility?

Because it's extremely hard.

Why not?

Why haven't they done that so far?

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, I've seen that.

I've seen that quite a few of them are.

Yeah, definitely wallets and and wallets have come a long way.

And even the whole the payment ecosystem.

And I think partly that is partly because of like stable coins.

Yeah, because stable coins are not fluctuating unlike Bitcoin or Ethereum or anything.

And then people can integrate into the regular fiat economy everywhere in the world.

Yeah.