Sam Kamani

And even if you look at all the roles advertised or when founders, because I've been quite

involved in the whole community of like indie hackers and builders and early stage startups and going to different hackathons they think of front-end engineer they think of back-end they think of full stack developers they don't think of devops and that's like so big until later on when they think of oh yeah they're just running things on local and then when they want to deploy and things and especially with blockchain based infrastructure it's so much it's a bit different yes

Yeah.

Did you, how did you find that niche or what was the key sort of problems you saw in this space that inspired you to go in just in the DevOps part of things?

Yeah.

And what is the key sort of feature functionality that people or builders use Keeper Hub for these days?

Yep.

Do you have any examples or case studies of who is currently using KeeperHub, like any particular protocols or any particular projects?

And can you give like some sort of a concrete example of where they saved either time or they saved money by using KeeperHub?

Yeah, that's fantastic.

You know how you were talking about earlier that when you first found out about Ethereum and then there was all this new energy around and this excitement around this new ecosystem, Ethereum, and you wanted to just organically go and be part of it and be part of that community and contribute and host a node and do all sorts of things with that new tech.

What's that new tech do you feel like?

Or have you seen anything equivalent to that recently?

I don't know.

It's like, what do you think is like, I mean, SaaS is still a, because I have like a small investment in a startup that works on the crypto on the institutional side and the number of hedge funds and funds or liquid funds, how OTC, this number of companies that use spreadsheets is staggering.

They haven't even moved to a SaaS product.

There are SaaS products that exist,

But, you know, everyone's use cases are so niche that everyone ends up just using spreadsheets.

It's like Excel and Google Sheets run like half of like the whole world's financial ecosystem.

Pretty much it feels like that we haven't even reached SaaS or exploited the full potential of SaaS yet.