Sam Kamani

I don't know.

What's your point of view about that?

Yeah, that's absolutely right.

And every day there is a new tool that is a new, but only people like us, which is like, you know, probably 20, 30,000 people in the world who care about these sort of things.

Like everyone's been talking about Clodbot or Maltbot.

I don't know, you might have seen it recently and everyone wants to run it.

Yes, and the drama, and then everyone's running up massive AWS bills.

Because once again, DevOps, they're not thinking about the DevOps side of things.

I don't know, have you come across all that drama happening?

Yeah, I'm seeing that at the moment.

Like, you know, that is massive, massive.

Like AI is creating such massive opportunities.

If someone is technical and has time, they could just set up CloudBots for people and make a killing out of it.

You know, the whole age old saying of in the gold rush, sell the buckets and the shovels.

So someone could just do that.

And instead of using CloudBot themselves...

They could just do that and absolutely make a killing out of it.

What other sort of trends are you seeing when it comes to DevOps?

Yeah, exactly.

Everywhere.