Sam Liang

So that's why we use that $1 billion value.

I think it's still relatively conservative.

Yeah, especially, you know, then later when the agent can do more and more, you know, using agentic workflows, you can generate even more value, right?

It gets some of your action items done for you.

Right.

A lot of the things that we already discussed really excite me a lot.

How do we make this meeting-centric knowledge base a reality?

How do we get it adopted in enterprise, which I think will change corporate culture and make enterprise way more efficient?

And then in the future, the genetic workflows, the avatars, I think that's really exciting too.

It will still take several years, at least several years to make it work well.

But it's just a matter of time.

It will happen pretty soon, I would think.

There are still a lot of challenges to overcome.

What keeps me up?

it still takes time for us to convince enterprises that this will happen and it's better for them to adopt this sooner than later.

Because whenever a new innovative product emerges, it takes some time for people to fully understand it and change their mindset to use it.

If you think about it, it happens to Slack, it happens even to Zoom or video conference.

The early years of video conference, people actually don't feel comfortable showing their face on the video conference because people are used to the phone calls where there's no image.

Just to convince people to turn on video when they talk, it's a behavior change.

On Slack, it's like, you know, Slack has some early adoption among startups.