Sam McDowell

And so, like, that was a piece I thought would come around at the back end.

But I still am skeptical, I guess, knowing that, you know, Carlos Estevez went on a rehab assignment and that there could be a bonus, too, if he can get his velo back up.

But I think flood over the last – so since that April 24th date –

Their bullpen ERA is 142, which is second best in baseball.

I think you're asking, like, if that game's tomorrow or just, like, ideally you get to a spot.

So, I mean, I think eight and nine would be some form of earth second.

But Avila is a guy I'm interested in, if he could potentially factor into that.

And then, I mean, the trick question part of this, the trick part of this question is you could have a starter, too, I think, that could be part of that conversation if it's a playoff game.

So that, like, I don't think Noah Cameron, like, slots super well into the bullpen, and he's obviously your five starter.

But I think just availability, right?

Yeah, so I talked to – I don't want to let you finish, but just to add some context because I was at the stadium yesterday and J.T.

Piccolo mentioned the fact that

If his velo's there, that he's been a closer his whole career.

What you just said was the conclusion that I drew from.

They're going to try and make him the closer again unless he's throwing like 91 miles an hour in his rehab.

Yeah, I mean, the interesting thing about a trade piece is that

It's the one position that everybody's looking for if you're in contention.

Like, everyone could use an extra arm.

And if it's a closer, for some teams, they can use them in the eighth or seventh inning.

Like, everybody sees value in that because of really since what the Royals did in 14 and 15 and proved that you can use those guys effectively.