Sam Saltis

And that's a really interesting incentive.

But if I think about the internal cap, it's much less than that.

Four to five years we're finding.

We have customers that have been with us for 14 years, which is quite interesting.

I go back to their websites and go, oh my God, what happened here?

But customers like Nintendo have just closed their 10 years and they run over 200 websites with us.

That's amazing.

Yeah, I think it does.

Our challenge though is the fragmentation of the market because there's a lot of misnomers out there in terms of what people are saying about platforms.

Everything from you can download a free platform right up to you have to spend tens of millions of dollars on a platform.

So coming in and getting your message heard is one of the interesting challenges as a business.

So the customer funded business by John Mullins.

Well, I kind of find Jack Dorsey really interesting from Twitter because of the challenges he faces.

Okay, that's crazy.

Yeah, now I know.

Good, strong coffee.

So I'm married with one daughter, nine years old, and it was, I brought them all over to Boston with me.

So we're having a great experience and it's part of my mantra, you know, leave the bookmarks.

Uh, at the start, they hated me for it, especially during the winters, but you know, Boston grows on you.

It's, it's really awesome.