Sam Shaw

And what do you do with that?

Because how do you make somebody actually feel sorry for something they don't feel sorry for?

I mean, there they are, and you're like, say you're sorry, say it like you mean it.

And they don't mean it.

They're not going to.

They don't yet have the empathy.

Trying to explain to one of them, look, the way your sister feels is they go through life, they share with you, and then when you aren't generous with them...

that makes them you know you're trying to explain it like this and you can see the look on their eye like this cold steely look you know like i hear what you're saying i hear your little fable i'm just not buying it you know

And I don't know.

They'll do lip service to it.

They'll kind of sigh and shrug and sort of, in a sense, allow that perhaps that's the case.

And then they take another shot at the apology.

At least they recognize a moral code.

Even if your heart's not in this, I want to watch you go through the motions.

This is what people do when they really are sorry.

Right.

Well, you know, that's making me – I don't know if you're familiar with all the details of that Bible story about David and Bathsheba, you know.

And it's almost this funny modern politics story, right?

Okay, well, so here's King David, powerful king of Israel, and he basically commits adultery in office.

He sees a woman that he can have because of his power, who's not his wife, and arranges her to come to the palace and has his way with her.