Sam Tallent

And then the bass player, Chuck Dukowski, was like, no, no, no.

It's not their fault that no one else showed up.

we're gonna give them Black Flag.

They came to see Black Flag, we're giving them Black Flag.

And that defined my experience doing standup, where it's like, yeah, I would go do the show, there'd be 20 people there, but the next time I go to Omaha, there's gonna be 40 people there, because I fucking left it all on the field.

I was crushing just so I could survive.

It was a survival mechanism.

And I think that that really helped me in my career because I had so much at stake every show.

probably he's always saying cool stuff he said a lot of cool shit out in that pond but it's like you can't compare yourself to your friends no like if i compared myself to shane i would be like crestfallen what i am is happy for shane and his rise is so good for comedy in general and he's been so generous you know he put my special on his channel like he doesn't have to do any of these things right and i told shane that he's inherently punk rock and he rolled his eyes

because he's from the middle of Pennsylvania and punk rock's for homos or whatever.

Exactly, yeah.

That guy's punk rock, but so is Shane's ethos.

He brought his friends with him.

He built this stuff.

He did everything independently.

Nice.

I wonder where he stole it from.

Have you ever heard what Twain did for Ulysses S. Grant?

No.

So Grant's the president, but everyone thinks he's this insane booze bag because he got busted being drunk one time on watch.