Sami Inkinen

So even in light of data, it's honestly, it has taken and still have to work very hard to change the conventional wisdom that many of these, most of the metabolic diseases are reversible and using our data to That's the language of most scientists and clinicians. But even with the data, you know, it's hard work.

So even in light of data, it's honestly, it has taken and still have to work very hard to change the conventional wisdom that many of these, most of the metabolic diseases are reversible and using our data to That's the language of most scientists and clinicians. But even with the data, you know, it's hard work.

So even in light of data, it's honestly, it has taken and still have to work very hard to change the conventional wisdom that many of these, most of the metabolic diseases are reversible and using our data to That's the language of most scientists and clinicians. But even with the data, you know, it's hard work.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Maybe I'll jump, Krisma, first, give the non-MD, non-medical doctor view now that I've observed 100,000 plus patients and 10-year journey, and maybe the listeners who are less clinically minded can... can get a few data points there and then I'll hand it over to you.

Maybe I'll jump, Krisma, first, give the non-MD, non-medical doctor view now that I've observed 100,000 plus patients and 10-year journey, and maybe the listeners who are less clinically minded can... can get a few data points there and then I'll hand it over to you.

Maybe I'll jump, Krisma, first, give the non-MD, non-medical doctor view now that I've observed 100,000 plus patients and 10-year journey, and maybe the listeners who are less clinically minded can... can get a few data points there and then I'll hand it over to you.

Well, first, Mark, indeed, the results that we deliver, I sort of jokingly, although this holds true, these days say that Virta nutritionally delivers Ozempic-like results without the drug. Like those are the outcomes that we deliver. And as you mentioned, 12% average body weight loss, and not just for six months, 12% at one year, sustained at two years, and we'd follow patients out to five years.

Well, first, Mark, indeed, the results that we deliver, I sort of jokingly, although this holds true, these days say that Virta nutritionally delivers Ozempic-like results without the drug. Like those are the outcomes that we deliver. And as you mentioned, 12% average body weight loss, and not just for six months, 12% at one year, sustained at two years, and we'd follow patients out to five years.

Well, first, Mark, indeed, the results that we deliver, I sort of jokingly, although this holds true, these days say that Virta nutritionally delivers Ozempic-like results without the drug. Like those are the outcomes that we deliver. And as you mentioned, 12% average body weight loss, and not just for six months, 12% at one year, sustained at two years, and we'd follow patients out to five years.

So the results are very strong. And as you mentioned in type two diabetes context, insulin is usually thought as sort of the last hope drug, hypoglycemic agent for type two diabetes. Well, at two years, from start to two years, 80% of all insulin, inverter care is eliminated, which again is kind of unheard of because usually the dose goes up 10, 12% year over year.

So the results are very strong. And as you mentioned in type two diabetes context, insulin is usually thought as sort of the last hope drug, hypoglycemic agent for type two diabetes. Well, at two years, from start to two years, 80% of all insulin, inverter care is eliminated, which again is kind of unheard of because usually the dose goes up 10, 12% year over year.

So the results are very strong. And as you mentioned in type two diabetes context, insulin is usually thought as sort of the last hope drug, hypoglycemic agent for type two diabetes. Well, at two years, from start to two years, 80% of all insulin, inverter care is eliminated, which again is kind of unheard of because usually the dose goes up 10, 12% year over year.

This is 80% of the total dose at start is eliminated on a population level, which is insane. And I think the percentage of people who are completely off is somewhere in the same ballpark. I actually don't remember that number on top of my head, but it is very high.

This is 80% of the total dose at start is eliminated on a population level, which is insane. And I think the percentage of people who are completely off is somewhere in the same ballpark. I actually don't remember that number on top of my head, but it is very high.

This is 80% of the total dose at start is eliminated on a population level, which is insane. And I think the percentage of people who are completely off is somewhere in the same ballpark. I actually don't remember that number on top of my head, but it is very high.

And as you said, 60%, what we call diabetes reversal rate that one year, which does mean that you are completely off of diabetes specific medications and your blood sugar is in a normal range. And There's a lot of societal debate like, how do we get the insulin price lower and lower and lower? I always say, guess what's better than a lower insulin price?

And as you said, 60%, what we call diabetes reversal rate that one year, which does mean that you are completely off of diabetes specific medications and your blood sugar is in a normal range. And There's a lot of societal debate like, how do we get the insulin price lower and lower and lower? I always say, guess what's better than a lower insulin price?