Sami Inkinen

And as you said, 60%, what we call diabetes reversal rate that one year, which does mean that you are completely off of diabetes specific medications and your blood sugar is in a normal range. And There's a lot of societal debate like, how do we get the insulin price lower and lower and lower? I always say, guess what's better than a lower insulin price?

It's eliminating the need for insulin in type 2 diabetes context. Obviously, type 1 is a different disease. Back to the treatment. I'll give you the layman's verse and first. Well, first I should say, nutrition is freaking hard. It is freaking hard.

It's eliminating the need for insulin in type 2 diabetes context. Obviously, type 1 is a different disease. Back to the treatment. I'll give you the layman's verse and first. Well, first I should say, nutrition is freaking hard. It is freaking hard.

It's eliminating the need for insulin in type 2 diabetes context. Obviously, type 1 is a different disease. Back to the treatment. I'll give you the layman's verse and first. Well, first I should say, nutrition is freaking hard. It is freaking hard.

Obviously, we've had diet and exercise programs for the last three, four decades, and practically all of them have failed to deliver sustained results. And sometimes I say, you know, my background in physics, that getting nutrition right is harder or can be harder than nuclear physics, or at least in light of the last three, four decades. But here's a couple of cornerstones why Virta works.

Obviously, we've had diet and exercise programs for the last three, four decades, and practically all of them have failed to deliver sustained results. And sometimes I say, you know, my background in physics, that getting nutrition right is harder or can be harder than nuclear physics, or at least in light of the last three, four decades. But here's a couple of cornerstones why Virta works.

Obviously, we've had diet and exercise programs for the last three, four decades, and practically all of them have failed to deliver sustained results. And sometimes I say, you know, my background in physics, that getting nutrition right is harder or can be harder than nuclear physics, or at least in light of the last three, four decades. But here's a couple of cornerstones why Virta works.

So number one, You have to be able to use nutrition to eliminate unnecessary hunger and cravings. So eliminate unnecessary hunger and cravings. Because if the nutrition program is based on sort of willpower and hunger, willpower always runs out, usually latest at the wedding photo. Like it runs up. And so that's one cornerstone of what Virta does.

So number one, You have to be able to use nutrition to eliminate unnecessary hunger and cravings. So eliminate unnecessary hunger and cravings. Because if the nutrition program is based on sort of willpower and hunger, willpower always runs out, usually latest at the wedding photo. Like it runs up. And so that's one cornerstone of what Virta does.

So number one, You have to be able to use nutrition to eliminate unnecessary hunger and cravings. So eliminate unnecessary hunger and cravings. Because if the nutrition program is based on sort of willpower and hunger, willpower always runs out, usually latest at the wedding photo. Like it runs up. And so that's one cornerstone of what Virta does.

When we use nutrition, we help our patients or counsel them to eat to satiety and as much sort of real food as possible.

When we use nutrition, we help our patients or counsel them to eat to satiety and as much sort of real food as possible.

When we use nutrition, we help our patients or counsel them to eat to satiety and as much sort of real food as possible.

Exactly. And obviously, mathematically, that can hold. But again, if it's a mathematical exercise, when the willpower runs out, which it does, again, at the wedding photo, whatever the milestone is, then weight regains. So that's on a nutritional side. I'll say one more thing around nutrition, which is We have to, and this is what we do, we individualize more or less to the N equals one.

Exactly. And obviously, mathematically, that can hold. But again, if it's a mathematical exercise, when the willpower runs out, which it does, again, at the wedding photo, whatever the milestone is, then weight regains. So that's on a nutritional side. I'll say one more thing around nutrition, which is We have to, and this is what we do, we individualize more or less to the N equals one.

Exactly. And obviously, mathematically, that can hold. But again, if it's a mathematical exercise, when the willpower runs out, which it does, again, at the wedding photo, whatever the milestone is, then weight regains. So that's on a nutritional side. I'll say one more thing around nutrition, which is We have to, and this is what we do, we individualize more or less to the N equals one.

And I'll give you a silly example, but often this is lost in translation in diet programs. So if you're a vegetarian coming to Virta by identity or religion or that, that is your thing. And we tell you to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast, guess what? We lose you immediately. Also, the other way around, like we work with one large Fortune 500 company. We work with U.S. foods.

And I'll give you a silly example, but often this is lost in translation in diet programs. So if you're a vegetarian coming to Virta by identity or religion or that, that is your thing. And we tell you to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast, guess what? We lose you immediately. Also, the other way around, like we work with one large Fortune 500 company. We work with U.S. foods.

And I'll give you a silly example, but often this is lost in translation in diet programs. So if you're a vegetarian coming to Virta by identity or religion or that, that is your thing. And we tell you to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast, guess what? We lose you immediately. Also, the other way around, like we work with one large Fortune 500 company. We work with U.S. foods.

There's a lot of truck drivers, and these are mostly men. And so they're used to like burgers and meat and stuff. If we tell them, and obviously this is stereotypical, but if we tell them, okay, it's steamed spinach for the rest of your life, guess what? Again, we lose you immediately. So we have to do a lot of individualization.