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Samuel Tongue

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
551 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

Each afternoon I watched her coming back through the hot stony field after swimming, the sea light behind her and the huge sky on the other side of that.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

I believe Icarus was not failing as he fell, but just coming to the end of his triumph.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

The first thing that we noted with this piece was the killer first line.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

It was a great first line to really draw you in.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

Everyone forgets that Icarus also flew.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

That kind of upending of the mythology and the interpretation that's kind of crystallized around Icarus as the kind of ultimate in hubris.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

He flew too close to the sun.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

And his pride, yeah, his pride and his hubris brings him down.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

With this, yeah, this kind of twist, everyone forgets that Icarus also flew before he fell or before he failed, as the title has here, failing and flying.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

The poem just kind of hinges on that exploration of how do we know whether someone or a situation is failing or whether it's actually flying or whether the perspective that interlocutors or interpreters have on the situation might not be the correct one.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

There's questions throughout.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

How can they say the marriage failed?

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

There's this sense that the poem is speaking outside of itself, out to an audience or to a judging kind of looker-in.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

And not providing necessarily answers, but saying that how can you say that the marriage failed or this situation is all about failure?

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

In the group, we were obviously, as I say, struck by the first line, but also the kind of conclusion, as it were, where the poet writes, but anything worth doing is worth doing badly.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

And again, we spent quite a bit of time on that line because it's not the received wisdom.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

Anything worth doing is worth doing well is obviously the kind of Victoriana interpretation or phrasing of those lines.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

But here he's saying anything worth doing is worth doing badly.

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

What does that mean?

Scottish Poetry Library Podcast
Nothing But The Poem - Jack Gilbert

Is that an echo of Samuel Beckett's Fail Better?