Sandra Matz

So I think there's this wake up call that, no, there are ways in which we can benefit from our data in a way that's a lot more protective.

So I think there's this wake up call that, no, there are ways in which we can benefit from our data in a way that's a lot more protective.

So I think there's this wake up call that, no, there are ways in which we can benefit from our data in a way that's a lot more protective.

Thanks so much, Mike. It's been a pleasure.

Thanks so much, Mike. It's been a pleasure.

Thanks so much, Mike. It's been a pleasure.

Thank you so much for having me.

Yes, happily. It's a village of 500 people in the very southwest corner of Germany. As you said, there's two restaurants, no shops, one church, I should say. That's very important to the people living there. And it was really like a small community.

Yeah. I must have been, I think, eight, nine years old. And I had this pet rabbit or bunny called Schnuffel. And he was living outside. We had built him this house outside, my dad and I. And one day the neighbor comes and says that they found him in their garden, feasting on their vegetables and salad. And so they tried to

catch him already but unsuccessfully and so they were trying to get more manpower so now my entire family is up their entire family is up we're trying to get him and I don't know if you've ever had a bunny or let alone try to catch one they're really fast So they zigzag around and it's almost impossible to catch them. So we must have looked like clowns running around.

And that certainly didn't go unnoticed. So very soon into our hunt, I think the entire street really was involved. So we had someone was managing the traffic because the bunny would just kind of run from one side of the street to the next. And then we had like, it really felt like a command center.

So people were strategizing about whether we should set up a trap for the rabbit or whether we should just try to lure him in with a treat. Eventually we caught him, but it was certainly an adventure for the entire neighborhood.

It was a dramatic moment. So it was actually one of my neighbors who leaped and caught him on the back leg. And I just remembered the rabbits screaming. I didn't even know that rabbits could scream that loudly. And then all the kids were crying because the rabbit was screaming. And so I think the adults were just happy that we got him. But it was certainly a dramatic capture.

Yeah, so it was, I still remember it. It was like a red Suzuki Bandit. And it was, I thought it was beautiful. So I was 15, he was a bit older. And we would just take it from one village to the next through the hills and up and down the serpentines. And I loved riding it, but I was usually in the back. So at some point I think I got really tired of being in the back.

And I knew that I would have to wait for another three years, because in Germany you get your license at 18 at the earliest. So I kind of try to sneakily convince him to let me just try. I found this abandoned airfield and I just told him, let me just kind of ride for a few meters. You're going to get the bike back. It's all going to be good.

He was a bit skeptical at first, but then agreed to let me try. So we start and I don't know exactly what happened. I think we must have kind of moved to the grass and I was trying to pull the bike back. But suddenly I think I just turn on the gas. And the bike rises. My boyfriend falls off the back and I just speed away. So I have no idea what I'm doing now.

Suddenly I'm alone on the bike without any sense of like how to handle it. I'm trying kind of going left and right and left and right. And at some point I essentially crash on the side. Luckily it was still going slowly, but there was my first experience riding the bike myself.

But in a way that wasn't the worst part. For me, the worst part was that I would say the minute we dropped the bike at the shop, everybody knew. So people knew about me asking my boyfriend to drive the bike, me crashing the bike, which was even worse. Otherwise, it could have potentially been a cool story, but certainly wasn't. So everybody knew what had happened.

And just I was punished for weeks after with people asking me about it.

Very, I mean, very different. So some neighbors actually just went back to their own childhood and they were like, oh, that's like such a brave and fun thing to do. And they just recounted their own childhood offenses. Others were like, how could you ever do this? We thought that you were actually one of the good kids on the block.