Santiago Suárez

So we started reading about them.

And then what Daniel, my co-founder, and I try to do every year is we try to take a trip.

to see things.

So we've done one to release, we obviously the first one we did was to Brazil.

And this around, we said, Well, let's go to Central Asia, Central Asia, everyone knows about Kazakhstan, but also Uzbekistan is incredible.

In this section of like three FinTech unicorns, Oliver Hughes, who was the long term think of CEO now runs, what's the name TBC Uzbekistan for like, let's go.

But obviously,

you know, the big price is Caspi.

So I started, like, trying to get in front of this guy.

In many ways, I pinged one of their investors.

I got sent to their IR team.

But the way it worked was after, like, three or four cold LinkedIn emails, he was like, okay, fine.

I'm like, come.

And then we go meet him, and he was so generous.

But she sat there.

He's like, what questions do you have?

I was like, okay, great.

Well, I shall ask you some questions.

And then Danny and I just spent 90 minutes with him.

And he was extremely, you know, obviously public company CEO, but it's just like, just the way he thinks.