Sara Imari Walker

I don't.

I mean, as a mathematical construct, sure, but as a real physical thing, no.

But I have a really different view of mathematics than most people.

Like, I think mathematics is a physical system that exists on our planet, and I don't believe in, like, a Euclidean world that's, like, a perfect mathematical form.

I think they're a thing that our biosphere has invented, and one of the reasons that we think mathematics is universal is because it's a language that we understand that actually –

You know, like is information that's embedded in pretty much every object in our environment.

But it doesn't mean that it's like it has universal reach.

Right.

Well, there's there's always that.

I mean, you know, it it always perplexes me that, you know, people accepted Euclidean geometry is the only form of geometry for like 2000 years.

I mean, it's like like literally like that was it.

And then we were like, oh, well, there could be non Euclidean geometries.

And we just never imagined them because like they don't reflect our physical environment.

I mean, that's crazy.

So that's like that's saying that there's mathematics we don't understand.

But then there's a question about whether there's a deeper structure that's not even mathematical anymore.

that math might be derived from?

Like, is there a language deeper than math?

Don't know.

Have you thought about it?