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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

07 Aug 2024

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0.031 - 9.973 Sara Imari Walker

the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day

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13.278 - 24.309 Joe Rogan

So your subject matter is so fascinating to me. So first, please explain what this idea of assembly theory.

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24.49 - 41.547 Sara Imari Walker

Yeah. Assembly theory is born out of an interest in solving the origin of life and finding aliens. So that's sort of the motivation. I think it's really important to be clear about that to start because it introduces some kind of radical reconceptions of the way we think about fundamental physics, at least I think so.

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41.527 - 62.809 Sara Imari Walker

But the key idea of the theory is that the universe cannot generate complexity outside of living processes. And so we have a way of formalizing what seems kind of intuitively obvious that the universe doesn't generate complex objects for free. And we do this with this idea of assembly theory of thinking about the assembly space, which is like the space of all constructible objects.

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62.789 - 75.769 Sara Imari Walker

And you can talk about the complexity in that space as a minimal number of steps for making an object. And if you see objects that require a lot of steps to make them and they're in high abundance, life is the only thing that can make them.

76.762 - 81.629 Joe Rogan

Wow. So this includes plant life.

81.689 - 94.247 Sara Imari Walker

This includes everything, technology, everything on your table, you know, requires billions of years of evolution, evolution of intelligence and technology to generate. So.

94.227 - 104.92 Joe Rogan

When you say life to generate, what about like crystals? And what about, have you ever seen that enormous cave in Mexico where they have these insane crystal structures?

104.98 - 106.422 Sara Imari Walker

Is that the one that's like hot inside?

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