Sara Imari Walker

It's like crazy.

Yeah, totally crazy.

There has to be.

No.

No, I definitely think fundamental physics has a very bright future of having some really fundamentally earth-shattering...

Like ways of thinking about things that I don't even think like our current theories are like that like they're They're gonna be replaced by things even more awesome And I'm really excited about that I mean, that's like why you want to do like physics, right?

Like you don't want to work on the theories of like, you know The guys that were around a hundred years ago Like why don't you work on the new ideas that describe the reality is like you're coming to understand it now in history, right?

Yeah, so it's funny that people want to just accept what previous generations taught them is like absolute fact

And then not be confronted with like the changing times, the changing understanding of the world around us, the changing sets of observations.

Because I can imagine, you know, many thousands of years ago when humans were, you know, still like, you know, being hunter gatherers, not really thinking we have a lot of causal agency in the world.

Like you see the seasons, you have no control over them and like.

And so obviously we're born out of this idea that the universe is objective and existing outside of us because of a deep history of not having control.

But now in a modern technological society, we see how much of reality we've shaped and changed.

I don't know how you could hold that view anymore.

It's very deep in our history that we think these things.

But the evidence around us right now is completely to the contrary.

Right.

Yes.

Humans in particular.

I think animals do it to an extent.