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Sara Jane Ho

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
588 total appearances

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Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

I love it. I love that. Okay. So tell us why. Okay. So explain that. And of course, I mean, it was a New York Times style profile that came out in January, 2023. Okay. And when I, of course they take the one thing that I say out of like a 36 hour, you know, of them shadowing me and they make that the headline.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

I love it. I love that. Okay. So tell us why. Okay. So explain that. And of course, I mean, it was a New York Times style profile that came out in January, 2023. Okay. And when I, of course they take the one thing that I say out of like a 36 hour, you know, of them shadowing me and they make that the headline.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

I love it. Of course. So when I saw it, I, I cringed and then I sent it to my cousin, Adrian, who I'm closest with. And when she saw it, she was like, OMG. And I was dying. I mean, I really wanted to post it on Instagram or social media because it's a New York Times style profile. And I love the photo. And everything else about the article is great. And I was like, ah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

I love it. Of course. So when I saw it, I, I cringed and then I sent it to my cousin, Adrian, who I'm closest with. And when she saw it, she was like, OMG. And I was dying. I mean, I really wanted to post it on Instagram or social media because it's a New York Times style profile. And I love the photo. And everything else about the article is great. And I was like, ah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

I love it. Of course. So when I saw it, I, I cringed and then I sent it to my cousin, Adrian, who I'm closest with. And when she saw it, she was like, OMG. And I was dying. I mean, I really wanted to post it on Instagram or social media because it's a New York Times style profile. And I love the photo. And everything else about the article is great. And I was like, ah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And then 10 minutes later, when Adrienne finished, she finished reading the article. She was like, you know what? It's the perfect title. Because it talks about how etiquette is contextual. And so saying the etiquette guru who broke up with her boyfriend over text, it's contextual. And now I embrace the title. And that ex, his friend sent me the title along with comments like, what a title.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And then 10 minutes later, when Adrienne finished, she finished reading the article. She was like, you know what? It's the perfect title. Because it talks about how etiquette is contextual. And so saying the etiquette guru who broke up with her boyfriend over text, it's contextual. And now I embrace the title. And that ex, his friend sent me the title along with comments like, what a title.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And then 10 minutes later, when Adrienne finished, she finished reading the article. She was like, you know what? It's the perfect title. Because it talks about how etiquette is contextual. And so saying the etiquette guru who broke up with her boyfriend over text, it's contextual. And now I embrace the title. And that ex, his friend sent me the title along with comments like, what a title.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

terrible relationship and you get the courage in that moment to do it then just do it the problem is does it ever stick if in your case it obviously step you know stuck but a lot of times people go back and forth anyway it doesn't well you know we were on again off again and because he was in i i knew you know it i was on how he was very insecure and controlling and so i'm i was it was day nine of shooting my netflix show i was like here i am telling my students to live their best lives and over here i have this needy and controlling boyfriend who's making me cry all the time and show up on set with puffy eyes

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

terrible relationship and you get the courage in that moment to do it then just do it the problem is does it ever stick if in your case it obviously step you know stuck but a lot of times people go back and forth anyway it doesn't well you know we were on again off again and because he was in i i knew you know it i was on how he was very insecure and controlling and so i'm i was it was day nine of shooting my netflix show i was like here i am telling my students to live their best lives and over here i have this needy and controlling boyfriend who's making me cry all the time and show up on set with puffy eyes

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

terrible relationship and you get the courage in that moment to do it then just do it the problem is does it ever stick if in your case it obviously step you know stuck but a lot of times people go back and forth anyway it doesn't well you know we were on again off again and because he was in i i knew you know it i was on how he was very insecure and controlling and so i'm i was it was day nine of shooting my netflix show i was like here i am telling my students to live their best lives and over here i have this needy and controlling boyfriend who's making me cry all the time and show up on set with puffy eyes

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And so I was like, you know what? This is it. We're done. And at that point, I was maybe 34 years old. And you think like, oh, it's some cost fallacy, right? We learned this in Harvard Business School. It's like, oh, I invested four years in this relationship already and I'm already this age. Maybe I should just stay with it because who knows? It's hard to meet somebody these days.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And so I was like, you know what? This is it. We're done. And at that point, I was maybe 34 years old. And you think like, oh, it's some cost fallacy, right? We learned this in Harvard Business School. It's like, oh, I invested four years in this relationship already and I'm already this age. Maybe I should just stay with it because who knows? It's hard to meet somebody these days.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And so I was like, you know what? This is it. We're done. And at that point, I was maybe 34 years old. And you think like, oh, it's some cost fallacy, right? We learned this in Harvard Business School. It's like, oh, I invested four years in this relationship already and I'm already this age. Maybe I should just stay with it because who knows? It's hard to meet somebody these days.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

Literally, when I sent that text, I was prepared to be single for the rest of my life. I was like, I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than be in a relationship that makes me unhappy. I felt as free as a bird after just cutting it off.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

Literally, when I sent that text, I was prepared to be single for the rest of my life. I was like, I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than be in a relationship that makes me unhappy. I felt as free as a bird after just cutting it off.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

Literally, when I sent that text, I was prepared to be single for the rest of my life. I was like, I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than be in a relationship that makes me unhappy. I felt as free as a bird after just cutting it off.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And I think I needed something as intense and overwhelming as shooting a Netflix show to push me to make that decision because I literally didn't have an ounce, not even like a millimeter of space for anything that was not adding value to my life.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And I think I needed something as intense and overwhelming as shooting a Netflix show to push me to make that decision because I literally didn't have an ounce, not even like a millimeter of space for anything that was not adding value to my life.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations

And I think I needed something as intense and overwhelming as shooting a Netflix show to push me to make that decision because I literally didn't have an ounce, not even like a millimeter of space for anything that was not adding value to my life.