Sarah Carey

Do you know, for another few weeks, was it really worth it?

And that if you were put in a similar position, you'd say no.

I would.

Yeah, and you stressed that was not advice to anybody, you know, that was your personal choice.

But that is something that,

that I've seen an awful lot of doctors say too.

I don't know if you remember Henry Marsh, those books do no harm.

And he was very distressed by what he saw people go through and that he would say no as well.

So, but I think there's a big cultural taboo around that, that we're very much in a society where because medicine can do so much, we expect it to be able to do everything and to put off the inevitable for as long as possible.

And saying no, um,

I think some people would treat it as some kind of form of suicide, which is not fair.

Why?

And that's someone who wants to live, maybe wanted to live for you, you know, and not leave you.

And so that's, you know, from that perspective, entirely rational.

And that's what I speculated on in my column, that if somebody does say no, do the people around them see it as a kind of betrayal, that you have some kind of obligation to live for them for as long as you can?

The other cases, and I didn't mention it.

Actually, there were two.

One issue, I did mention the column, one that I didn't.

One was families.

So you could give instructions and you could say, I don't want heroic interventions.