Sarah Jacquet‐Ray

Right. And we think that we're getting people more paying attention more if we present the problem as really, really big. That'll get their attention and maybe they'll finally stop doing what they're doing. But in fact, the scale of the problem being so big is what causes an efficacy, which then turns into less action.

That comes from that guilt thing, right? That I'm in eternal debt to the planet and to the world. I'm such a bad person. I've benefited so much from exploitation and extraction and violence, you know, the sort of...

That comes from that guilt thing, right? That I'm in eternal debt to the planet and to the world. I'm such a bad person. I've benefited so much from exploitation and extraction and violence, you know, the sort of...

That comes from that guilt thing, right? That I'm in eternal debt to the planet and to the world. I'm such a bad person. I've benefited so much from exploitation and extraction and violence, you know, the sort of...

idea that my presence on the planet is on the backs of so much suffering and so much bad stuff and so the only logical place i can go for that is to martyr myself right to sacrifice everything i have to sacrifice my time my energy my well-being especially and that if i'm not actually doing that that i'm not that i'm not contributing enough

idea that my presence on the planet is on the backs of so much suffering and so much bad stuff and so the only logical place i can go for that is to martyr myself right to sacrifice everything i have to sacrifice my time my energy my well-being especially and that if i'm not actually doing that that i'm not that i'm not contributing enough

idea that my presence on the planet is on the backs of so much suffering and so much bad stuff and so the only logical place i can go for that is to martyr myself right to sacrifice everything i have to sacrifice my time my energy my well-being especially and that if i'm not actually doing that that i'm not that i'm not contributing enough

Yeah, and so I call that a kind of martyrdom, and I think it's really seductive, especially for young people who are just learning about how their privileges have landed them where they are.

Yeah, and so I call that a kind of martyrdom, and I think it's really seductive, especially for young people who are just learning about how their privileges have landed them where they are.

Yeah, and so I call that a kind of martyrdom, and I think it's really seductive, especially for young people who are just learning about how their privileges have landed them where they are.

What the research is showing us is that the feeling of being in a collective is really an essential part of doing this. We have that famous quote from Bill McKibben when he's asked, what's the one thing I can do to solve this problem? What's one thing? And he says, stop being just I. Stop just being you.

What the research is showing us is that the feeling of being in a collective is really an essential part of doing this. We have that famous quote from Bill McKibben when he's asked, what's the one thing I can do to solve this problem? What's one thing? And he says, stop being just I. Stop just being you.

What the research is showing us is that the feeling of being in a collective is really an essential part of doing this. We have that famous quote from Bill McKibben when he's asked, what's the one thing I can do to solve this problem? What's one thing? And he says, stop being just I. Stop just being you.

start to see yourself in this broader collective, start to plug into a collective because a collective actually has kind of the effects that are, the sum is greater than the parts. And I use the metaphor of the choir, right?

start to see yourself in this broader collective, start to plug into a collective because a collective actually has kind of the effects that are, the sum is greater than the parts. And I use the metaphor of the choir, right?

start to see yourself in this broader collective, start to plug into a collective because a collective actually has kind of the effects that are, the sum is greater than the parts. And I use the metaphor of the choir, right?

When you're in a choir and you're lots of people singing and you need to catch your breath, or maybe you have a little frog in your throat or something, you can take a moment out and kind of settle your body again, get your voice back, knowing that the rest of the choir is carrying that song. Whereas if you feel like you're the only one singing, there's no space for that, right?

When you're in a choir and you're lots of people singing and you need to catch your breath, or maybe you have a little frog in your throat or something, you can take a moment out and kind of settle your body again, get your voice back, knowing that the rest of the choir is carrying that song. Whereas if you feel like you're the only one singing, there's no space for that, right?

When you're in a choir and you're lots of people singing and you need to catch your breath, or maybe you have a little frog in your throat or something, you can take a moment out and kind of settle your body again, get your voice back, knowing that the rest of the choir is carrying that song. Whereas if you feel like you're the only one singing, there's no space for that, right?

And so you just keep singing and you just sing through the suffering of it.