Sarah Jakes Roberts

And then from there, you're able to add to your knowledge.

That's some good advice.

Isn't that great?

That's such good.

He should do something with his life.

My father's more of the variety of like, I have money, you don't.

We're rich.

Oh, yeah.

That don't have nothing to do with you.

Like I said, my parents were on government assistance when I was born.

And so I've seen their life grow and evolve.

But I think like a lot of families and cultures, like my parents were so busy surviving and trying to make the money that they didn't have time to talk about it.

So we didn't have a lot of conversations about finances.

My father would be on, don't ask me to borrow any if you have already spent the money that you had from your paycheck.

So I feel like we learned a lot of things on our own or just by watching them.

And so I've had to manage my relationship with money from a sense of like,

if I don't talk about it, then I'm not going to be able to negotiate for what I need in this moment or to get what... I need the truth from other people.

That's the other thing about being in a position.

I think this may be true in every field, but I think when you're in a position of faith, like people want to offer you something in exchange for what you've maybe done in their lives with your messages.

And I want to know what it costs for real because, you know, gifts are nice, but I want to know what it would really cost for me to put this CVN on if you weren't here.