Sarah Kanowski

They were like, ah, he's a bit insecure.

Ah, he's a bit of a control freak.

Ah, it's just the way he is.

That was the kind of attitude I had towards it.

Like he wanted things to be his way.

Any time the kids were disruptive, he would make it her fault.

It's your fault that the kids are doing this.

If it was mid-workout, she would have to stop the workout to go and tend to the kids.

And my perspective at the time was that makes sense.

She's the mum, right?

It's not where I am now.

But at the time, it just looked like just the way relationships kind of were, given everything I'd seen before.

Yeah.

Yeah, that... I don't think there's anyone who would say they hadn't seen him be angry at her in front of them.

He would... It was often in relation to the kids.

Sometimes, like, there were a couple of, you know, awkward moments...

for everyone when there would be an argument they might have had the day before that had spilled over into that morning workout and the way that there was this dynamic between them and she was trying to avoid him and he would make snide comments about her or during the workout or at the cafe afterwards, every Saturday we would have breakfast together as a squad and, yeah, and he was just like, and we might talk to each other about it later and say that was a bit off, that was a bit weird, but, oh, well, you know, relationship troubles, right?

Yeah, it did.

Because I think as a kid, when you grow up, when I grew up in violence, like physical violence, when someone is being controlling or someone is...

saying degrading things about their partner or someone is even complaining about them not being adequate as a partner.