Sarah Koenig

He's maintained his relationships outside the prison with his family and with friends, certain friends.

I mean, is that something that I should be taking into account?

Finally, I asked Ewing, should I be influenced by the fact that Adnan has so consistently maintained his innocence all these years?

And Ewing said in his experience, people who are wrongfully convicted always maintain their innocence, even when it hurts them, like in sentencing or parole.

But on the other hand, he said, just because you say you didn't do it, even for decades, doesn't mean you didn't do it.

There just aren't any rules for this stuff.

Here's what I take away from this conversation with Charles Ewing.

I don't think Adnan is a psychopath.

I just don't.

I think he has empathy.

I think he has real feelings because I've heard and seen him demonstrate empathy and emotion towards me and towards other people.

He is able to imagine how someone else feels.

But on all the other options, it's a toss-up.

Could Adnan initially have been in some state of amnesia and denial and then supplanted that with actual lying?

It's possible.

Could he have had simmering feelings of anger and resentment that then boiled over in a not-quite-by-accident way?

It's possible.

Could he be truly innocent?

It's possible.

Ewing said he's often asked on the stand, how do you know this person isn't lying to you?