Sarah Koenig

At the end of both of Jay's tape statements, the detectives kind of come out with it.

Are you telling us the truth right now?

On February 28th, after Jay has told them off tape that he doesn't know anything about the murder, Ritz points out, your story has completely changed since you first came in this room.

And then Jay reinforces it.

But of course, two weeks later, big swaths of his story have changed.

So McGillivray asked him again on March 15th.

I put it to Bill Ritz when I talked to him briefly on the phone.

Jay's story kept changing, and you were catching the inconsistencies, and he was having to explain them and clean up his story.

So what ultimately made you believe him?

Ritz said they believed Jay's story because, quote, So how exactly did they corroborate it?

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