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Sarah Koenig

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This American Life
466: Blackjack

At Caesars, he typically worked the high-limit room.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Depending on the night, he was in charge of anywhere from 30 to 100 dealers.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

I asked him about Loveman's quote.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

So when he says we do everything we can to identify, our objective is to try to identify addicted gamblers as best we can and encourage them to seek treatment and help.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

That's not true?

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Kunder says the way it was supposed to work was that a designated person, called a casino ambassador, would respond to any gambler showing a potential sign of addiction.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

So if a dealer or a floor person heard someone say, how am I going to feed my kids, or I just lost my house, they were supposed to call over the ambassador, who would then give the player some addiction literature, Kunder remembers a pamphlet called When the Fun Stops, and a phone number to call.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

But in practice, Kunder says, it didn't happen.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

The only exception, he said, was if someone was suicidal.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

And anyway, there's no guarantee that a word of concern would make any difference.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

The former host at the Isle of Capri in Iowa told me things worked differently at his casino.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

A handful of times, he did try, gently, to help addicts, to talk to them about it.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Each time, he said, it was received very badly.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Imagine, he said, going up to a drunk in a bar and suggesting he ought to get himself to an AA meeting.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

It's not going to go over well.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Still, in Christian Kunder's mind, there's one case that shows how flagrantly the casino ignores the policy that Loveman claims to live by.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

In 2007, Kunder witnessed the most spectacular losing streak on record, the case of Omaha businessman Terrence Watanabe.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Watanabe lost about $200 million in a year-long binge.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Until he collapsed into debt, he was the company's most valuable player.

This American Life
466: Blackjack

Kunder says a picture of Watanabe hung in the serving area of the bar to make sure every employee knew who he was.