Sarah Kopp

Yeah, I want them to see me be able to stick up for myself and, you know, so that they know that they don't have to put up with crap and shit.

I will always help them out of a situation that they find themselves in too.

Oh, it is super confronting.

Like my daughter's the oldest.

So when she turned 15 and just looking at her and her friends even and the way that they talk and how they act and their just emotional capacity, I just, they're just babies.

And I just was like, and I'm like that every step of the way as she gets older.

I'm like, I was pregnant.

I was getting married, you know, and I couldn't imagine her in the same situation.

Yeah.

So it was last year, actually, that I registered my charity name, Step In For Kids, that, you know, I

We're sitting there and going, I want to do something good with this.

I don't think there's enough being done about grooming and grooming education and awareness.

Yeah.

You know, we all know about, you know, child sexual abuse and stranger danger and all those kinds of things.

But I think we're still...

we're lacking the language and the understanding of that real grooming pattern, that manipulative type behaviour.

Yeah, because I mean, the biggest thing is, is grooming, it follows such a distinct pattern of behaviour.

Yeah.

And if you can understand it, then you can spot it and you've got the language to be able to speak up and tell somebody or report what you're seeing.

It's just that, I guess, that real gradual escalation of behaviours.