Sarah Kopp

So initially targeting a particular child, you know, and they'll find some child that in their eyes is vulnerable in some way.

And like myself, I came from a single parent family.

I didn't have a lot of emotional connection.

So that was my biggest vulnerability and gaining that access.

So finding ways that

they can infiltrate that child's life, and, you know, that is usually by grooming the safe adults around them as well.

So they're usually, you know, they're not the creepy people that, you know, you think of when you think of predators.

They're usually people that have great reputations, that are going above and beyond in their workplaces or whatever they're, you know, involved in, the dependable ones, the ones that you go to.

And that's how they can sort of sneak in there.

And then it's just normalizing and pushing boundaries gradually and gradually with that child.

So, you know, at first it's just like compliments or gift giving, just little things that, you know,

I guess to a child would be enticing and you make those connections and then it turns into, you know, physical touch and things like that.

And that will, you know, escalate as well.

So, you know, it was that little thing.

I'm going to do this and see whether these people comply and accept it.

And because nothing bad or terrible happened, it goes, you sort of, you know, lower your defences a little bit.

She might leave.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

And that's exactly what it is.