Sarah Longwell

And so they get a lot out of being in the comments sections or doing the secret pod with me and JVL. And obviously JVL's triad is one of the, it's sort of the signature gated piece of content, right? There's still like all the YouTube stuff, it's all free.

So I want to be at a million free subscribers, but we're going to need all the people who listen to this podcast to help us and go tell people about the bulwark. We're tipping over, I think, in public consciousness. A lot more people know who we are now than they did before. But I want to go big because I think we will be pretty fearless. I think we deserve an audience that big.

So I want to be at a million free subscribers, but we're going to need all the people who listen to this podcast to help us and go tell people about the bulwark. We're tipping over, I think, in public consciousness. A lot more people know who we are now than they did before. But I want to go big because I think we will be pretty fearless. I think we deserve an audience that big.

So I want to be at a million free subscribers, but we're going to need all the people who listen to this podcast to help us and go tell people about the bulwark. We're tipping over, I think, in public consciousness. A lot more people know who we are now than they did before. But I want to go big because I think we will be pretty fearless. I think we deserve an audience that big.

So go tell all your friends.

So go tell all your friends.

So go tell all your friends.

I mean, try not to libel people if I would like you to try not to. And look, there's probably more lawyers in everybody's future. But no, don't calibrate. You say you're going to care about what you're going to care about. We're going to tell you the truth about what we think. And that's the thing that's made, I think, this really special. But I really want to grow it, not for the sake of...

I mean, try not to libel people if I would like you to try not to. And look, there's probably more lawyers in everybody's future. But no, don't calibrate. You say you're going to care about what you're going to care about. We're going to tell you the truth about what we think. And that's the thing that's made, I think, this really special. But I really want to grow it, not for the sake of...

I mean, try not to libel people if I would like you to try not to. And look, there's probably more lawyers in everybody's future. But no, don't calibrate. You say you're going to care about what you're going to care about. We're going to tell you the truth about what we think. And that's the thing that's made, I think, this really special. But I really want to grow it, not for the sake of...

just more subscribers or because there's some number, but because I believe we make an impact on people's lives. The number of people who come up to us at the shows and talk about how we keep them sane or like they feel in these relationships with us, that feels great to us. And I think that like, I think it's a good thing. I think we should have more subscribers.

just more subscribers or because there's some number, but because I believe we make an impact on people's lives. The number of people who come up to us at the shows and talk about how we keep them sane or like they feel in these relationships with us, that feels great to us. And I think that like, I think it's a good thing. I think we should have more subscribers.

just more subscribers or because there's some number, but because I believe we make an impact on people's lives. The number of people who come up to us at the shows and talk about how we keep them sane or like they feel in these relationships with us, that feels great to us. And I think that like, I think it's a good thing. I think we should have more subscribers.

I think more people should do this. I think it will help us get through this particular period of time.

I think more people should do this. I think it will help us get through this particular period of time.

I think more people should do this. I think it will help us get through this particular period of time.

I don't usually have notes for things, but I do this time. I read this to Tim before we got started, and he told me it was too mean. So I dialed it back a little bit. We'll see. And actually, look, I actually kind of agree with you that I don't think voters have to choose. I listen to voters all the time.

I don't usually have notes for things, but I do this time. I read this to Tim before we got started, and he told me it was too mean. So I dialed it back a little bit. We'll see. And actually, look, I actually kind of agree with you that I don't think voters have to choose. I listen to voters all the time.

I don't usually have notes for things, but I do this time. I read this to Tim before we got started, and he told me it was too mean. So I dialed it back a little bit. We'll see. And actually, look, I actually kind of agree with you that I don't think voters have to choose. I listen to voters all the time.

And one of the things I do, anybody who listens to the stuff around focus groups knows that I am a big defender of what people call somewhat derisively low information voters, because I believe that people should be able to go out and live their lives and not have to be obsessed with politics all the time, right? And if they decide that a quick scan of the candidates