Sarah Longwell

And so the conspiracy stuff is and again, you hear it with people saying, well, I trust the plan.

You know, whatever Trump's doing, I trust the plan.

I mean, it's sort of like it's it's all the way from deep QAnon stuff that can be pernicious to.

And kind of dangerous and lead somebody to show up at a pizza shop with a gun all the way over to Bravo doesn't have a new series now.

So I'm like really into what's happening with Erica.

I was just going to say, like, you think the government can't figure out how to solve a bunch of these problems, but you think they know how to cover up.

They fake that stuff?

This is why, you know, I tend to still be, despite all of the chaos we see, really like firmly pro-American voter, because in some ways they are being poisoned every day and they're being lied to by their government every single day.

I think that whether it's Epstein, whether it's the way that Trump has talked about war on Iran, like,

We are both being lied to, and the only way we're getting information is on his, like, janky social media feed.

And, like, that's how things are coming, his privately owned.

Like, I have a hard time blaming the American people who for a long time were like, but he's the president.

He certainly wouldn't lie about all of this stuff.

And they're trying to parse this new information landscape, which is a nightmare.

Yeah.

And there's conflict merchants everywhere telling them who to hate and how to hate and, you know, ginning people up.

And so I just I feel like I feel like people when I that's why I like the focus groups.

They're actually much nicer in person than actually the way when people fight with you on the Internet and they're just like screaming things at you.

You know, people in the groups, they're really wrestling with stuff.

They're just coming away with some wild conclusions.