Sarah Longwell

But like, that's not driving their votes.

That's not the essential thing pushing most people.

What did one guy say?

He was like, how does a conspiracy theory go – like turn into a fact and it's like just give it time?

Yes.

But what is amazing is it – you used to hear people start their sentences with, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but.

And you were always kind of like, OK, well, I'm waiting to hear the conspiracy.

But now they're like, I'm a big conspiracy theorist and let me tell you what I think about Erica Kirk's –

Like the body's buried in her basement.

You know, I mean, the Candace Owens of it all, the extent to which the conspiracy, I mean, used to be like, go to the grocery store and there'd be like, Bat Boy kills seven or whatever stuff we used to see.

And America's always had a strain of, you know, there's a second gunman on the grass, you know, and whatever.

They like it.

It's fun.

Now, and the way that people own it now is,

shows you how much people are leaning into this as a way of politics as entertainment um the characters that they watch and this is something that the right does in some ways to its benefit and to its detriment which is that they are creating an ecosystem of like maga soap opera stars yes they're all fighting will summer oh i know thank god for will because i wouldn't know what the hell was going on like who's mad at who and who did what in the ballroom at tpusa event anyway

There's a lot of like minor celebrities.

I mean, Will Summers constantly saying like, well, so and so.

And I'm like, I'm sorry, who is that?

He's like, you know, the girl who threw up in the plant at the Mar-a-Lago.

And I'm like, I don't know this story.