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Sarah Longwell

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The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

sort of more, I would say this is even sort of like a Bernie Sanders version, because it used to be that Democrats were the ones saying, no, you have to make things in America. You know, we want American labor right there against shipping jobs overseas, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so because the coalitions now are completely different than they once were, I think having these arguments come with a new sense of like who's on which side. But I don't think that your side's JBLs or TIMs, need to be in tension, right? Like, in an optimal society, we would be talking about how do we improve the American education system? How do we defeat China, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so because the coalitions now are completely different than they once were, I think having these arguments come with a new sense of like who's on which side. But I don't think that your side's JBLs or TIMs, need to be in tension, right? Like, in an optimal society, we would be talking about how do we improve the American education system? How do we defeat China, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so because the coalitions now are completely different than they once were, I think having these arguments come with a new sense of like who's on which side. But I don't think that your side's JBLs or TIMs, need to be in tension, right? Like, in an optimal society, we would be talking about how do we improve the American education system? How do we defeat China, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

How do we make sure that we continue to lead in technology? And, like, there's an aspirational way that you can talk about this that both creates, then, an appetite, like, We want to both produce the smartest people and attract the smartest people. And we want to be such a big, rich country that people want to come here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

How do we make sure that we continue to lead in technology? And, like, there's an aspirational way that you can talk about this that both creates, then, an appetite, like, We want to both produce the smartest people and attract the smartest people. And we want to be such a big, rich country that people want to come here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

How do we make sure that we continue to lead in technology? And, like, there's an aspirational way that you can talk about this that both creates, then, an appetite, like, We want to both produce the smartest people and attract the smartest people. And we want to be such a big, rich country that people want to come here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It used to be a point of pride that people wanted to come to America because we were a great place and they were going to be additive. And that is a sense that we've lost now. because the nativist wing of MAGA, which is a big, big piece of it, just wants nobody coming in. And this is where Elon and Vivek, they see things through a prism of their own experience.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It used to be a point of pride that people wanted to come to America because we were a great place and they were going to be additive. And that is a sense that we've lost now. because the nativist wing of MAGA, which is a big, big piece of it, just wants nobody coming in. And this is where Elon and Vivek, they see things through a prism of their own experience.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It used to be a point of pride that people wanted to come to America because we were a great place and they were going to be additive. And that is a sense that we've lost now. because the nativist wing of MAGA, which is a big, big piece of it, just wants nobody coming in. And this is where Elon and Vivek, they see things through a prism of their own experience.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It's in their tweets where there's a clear sense of, There are good ones and bad ones, right? There are good immigrants and bad immigrants. And those are classes of people that they seem to take for granted in their mind. Whereas like I used to do a lot of work for the restaurant industry, restaurant industry, they want people from all these other countries to come.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It's in their tweets where there's a clear sense of, There are good ones and bad ones, right? There are good immigrants and bad immigrants. And those are classes of people that they seem to take for granted in their mind. Whereas like I used to do a lot of work for the restaurant industry, restaurant industry, they want people from all these other countries to come.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It's in their tweets where there's a clear sense of, There are good ones and bad ones, right? There are good immigrants and bad immigrants. And those are classes of people that they seem to take for granted in their mind. Whereas like I used to do a lot of work for the restaurant industry, restaurant industry, they want people from all these other countries to come.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And many of them are illegal, right? Like they're the ones right now thinking, I hope Trump doesn't mean it when he says he's going to raid us because our kitchens are full of immigrant workers that the American economy relies on.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And many of them are illegal, right? Like they're the ones right now thinking, I hope Trump doesn't mean it when he says he's going to raid us because our kitchens are full of immigrant workers that the American economy relies on.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And many of them are illegal, right? Like they're the ones right now thinking, I hope Trump doesn't mean it when he says he's going to raid us because our kitchens are full of immigrant workers that the American economy relies on.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah, which is basically they mean Asians.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah, which is basically they mean Asians.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Yeah, which is basically they mean Asians.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

I think it's a vulnerability, but here's the thing. it's a vulnerability. This is much closer to a mutually assured destruction than any relationship we've ever seen out of Trump. Like, Trump could do that to Elon, but not without real costs to himself. And so the question is, and for me, I think the most