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Sarah Longwell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2320 total appearances

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think I rightfully observed, I was like, well, I think... One, there was, to your comment, there was a transfer of support from the LGB to the T because it's all one acronym. But I think two, there was another lesson that people had in that moment, which was they were like, I remember not understanding gay people. And because of that, I remember being wrong on marriage.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think I rightfully observed, I was like, well, I think... One, there was, to your comment, there was a transfer of support from the LGB to the T because it's all one acronym. But I think two, there was another lesson that people had in that moment, which was they were like, I remember not understanding gay people. And because of that, I remember being wrong on marriage.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I don't want to be wrong again just because I don't understand trans people. So I'll get on board with trans rights, even though I don't understand trans people. And what that meant was that that support was sort of a mile wide, but an inch deep. It was a house built on sand. And I think because of that, we were lulled into a false sense of security, which I've said multiple times here.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I don't want to be wrong again just because I don't understand trans people. So I'll get on board with trans rights, even though I don't understand trans people. And what that meant was that that support was sort of a mile wide, but an inch deep. It was a house built on sand. And I think because of that, we were lulled into a false sense of security, which I've said multiple times here.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think didn't sort of do the necessary work as unfair as it might be, because change-making is not always fair. We didn't do the necessary work that the gay rights movement had done over a period of 20 years of deepening understanding of gay people so that the support for marriage was built on genuine understanding, we didn't do that work because we thought we were past it.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think didn't sort of do the necessary work as unfair as it might be, because change-making is not always fair. We didn't do the necessary work that the gay rights movement had done over a period of 20 years of deepening understanding of gay people so that the support for marriage was built on genuine understanding, we didn't do that work because we thought we were past it.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think one of the lessons for me now is that if we want to have any fighting chance of getting this thing back on track for trans people, we've got to return to the basics. We've got to fill a knowledge gap that exists and still exists. And that is unfair. It feels like we've been fighting for a while,

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think one of the lessons for me now is that if we want to have any fighting chance of getting this thing back on track for trans people, we've got to return to the basics. We've got to fill a knowledge gap that exists and still exists. And that is unfair. It feels like we've been fighting for a while,

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

Again, you can't overcome marginalization if you aren't going to grapple with the fact that marginalization is inherently unfair and ending it is unfair.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

Again, you can't overcome marginalization if you aren't going to grapple with the fact that marginalization is inherently unfair and ending it is unfair.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

I've spent, I had spent a decade doing that. And I think in many ways, one of the reasons why Delaware has, I think, interacted with me and trans rights in a way that has felt a little bit different than politics elsewhere is because I feel like Delaware had a 10 to 15 year conversation about what it was like, what it means to be trans.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

I've spent, I had spent a decade doing that. And I think in many ways, one of the reasons why Delaware has, I think, interacted with me and trans rights in a way that has felt a little bit different than politics elsewhere is because I feel like Delaware had a 10 to 15 year conversation about what it was like, what it means to be trans.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think one of the challenges that we have in conversations around trans identities that's different than conversations around gay rights is that most people who are straight can understand what it feels like to love and to lust. And so they're able to enter into conversations around sexual orientation with an analogous experience.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And I think one of the challenges that we have in conversations around trans identities that's different than conversations around gay rights is that most people who are straight can understand what it feels like to love and to lust. And so they're able to enter into conversations around sexual orientation with an analogous experience.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And people who aren't trans don't know what it feels like to be trans. And for me, the closest thing that I can compare it to was a constant feeling of homesickness, just this unwavering ache in the pit of my stomach that would only go away when I could be seen and affirmed and live as myself. And while I thought for so long that if I grew up, it would go away, it only grew with time.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And people who aren't trans don't know what it feels like to be trans. And for me, the closest thing that I can compare it to was a constant feeling of homesickness, just this unwavering ache in the pit of my stomach that would only go away when I could be seen and affirmed and live as myself. And while I thought for so long that if I grew up, it would go away, it only grew with time.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

I thought if I... You know, my interest in politics was rooted in that crisis of hope. And to some degree, my path toward politics was rooted in this notion that, like, if I can just, if I can live a fulfilling life professionally, if I can make my life in the closet so worth living for other people, then it will make it worthwhile to stay in the closet.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

I thought if I... You know, my interest in politics was rooted in that crisis of hope. And to some degree, my path toward politics was rooted in this notion that, like, if I can just, if I can live a fulfilling life professionally, if I can make my life in the closet so worth living for other people, then it will make it worthwhile to stay in the closet.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And at a certain point, I had to go through different stages of grief. And it was only when I accepted the loss of any kind of future, I was able to then accept myself. But I think, I don't think my constituents benefit from me going out there and regurgitating the stuff that I've done for the last 10 years.

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Sarah McBride's Challenge to Democrats

And at a certain point, I had to go through different stages of grief. And it was only when I accepted the loss of any kind of future, I was able to then accept myself. But I think, I don't think my constituents benefit from me going out there and regurgitating the stuff that I've done for the last 10 years.