Sarah Longwell
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There was a message that sort of was about the efforts to distract and divide. And then there was a message about... This would empower grown men to ask invasive questions or even require the bodily inspection of girls as young as five. Right. And that is that was an AOC forged message. So I agree.
There was a message that sort of was about the efforts to distract and divide. And then there was a message about... This would empower grown men to ask invasive questions or even require the bodily inspection of girls as young as five. Right. And that is that was an AOC forged message. So I agree.
Sure, so I remember back in 2015, 2016,
Sure, so I remember back in 2015, 2016,
when it felt like we were on this unending, cresting wave of progress for the entirety of the LGBTQ community, as we saw the bathroom bill blow up in Pat McCrory's face in North Carolina, the governor who had signed it into law, as general public support and cultural acceptance of trans people seemed to be growing and growing and growing pretty rapidly, people would say, why do you think this is happening so quickly?
when it felt like we were on this unending, cresting wave of progress for the entirety of the LGBTQ community, as we saw the bathroom bill blow up in Pat McCrory's face in North Carolina, the governor who had signed it into law, as general public support and cultural acceptance of trans people seemed to be growing and growing and growing pretty rapidly, people would say, why do you think this is happening so quickly?
And I think I rightfully observed, I was like, well, I think... One, there was, to your comment, there was a transfer of support from the LGB to the T because it's all one acronym. But I think two, there was another lesson that people had in that moment, which was they were like, I remember not understanding gay people. And because of that, I remember being wrong on marriage.
And I think I rightfully observed, I was like, well, I think... One, there was, to your comment, there was a transfer of support from the LGB to the T because it's all one acronym. But I think two, there was another lesson that people had in that moment, which was they were like, I remember not understanding gay people. And because of that, I remember being wrong on marriage.
And I don't want to be wrong again just because I don't understand trans people. So I'll get on board with trans rights, even though I don't understand trans people. And what that meant was that that support was sort of a mile wide, but an inch deep. It was a house built on sand. And I think because of that, we were lulled into a false sense of security, which I've said multiple times here.
And I don't want to be wrong again just because I don't understand trans people. So I'll get on board with trans rights, even though I don't understand trans people. And what that meant was that that support was sort of a mile wide, but an inch deep. It was a house built on sand. And I think because of that, we were lulled into a false sense of security, which I've said multiple times here.
And I think didn't sort of do the necessary work as unfair as it might be, because change-making is not always fair. We didn't do the necessary work that the gay rights movement had done over a period of 20 years of deepening understanding of gay people so that the support for marriage was built on genuine understanding, we didn't do that work because we thought we were past it.
And I think didn't sort of do the necessary work as unfair as it might be, because change-making is not always fair. We didn't do the necessary work that the gay rights movement had done over a period of 20 years of deepening understanding of gay people so that the support for marriage was built on genuine understanding, we didn't do that work because we thought we were past it.
And I think one of the lessons for me now is that if we want to have any fighting chance of getting this thing back on track for trans people, we've got to return to the basics. We've got to fill a knowledge gap that exists and still exists. And that is unfair. It feels like we've been fighting for a while,
And I think one of the lessons for me now is that if we want to have any fighting chance of getting this thing back on track for trans people, we've got to return to the basics. We've got to fill a knowledge gap that exists and still exists. And that is unfair. It feels like we've been fighting for a while,
Again, you can't overcome marginalization if you aren't going to grapple with the fact that marginalization is inherently unfair and ending it is unfair.
Again, you can't overcome marginalization if you aren't going to grapple with the fact that marginalization is inherently unfair and ending it is unfair.
I've spent, I had spent a decade doing that. And I think in many ways, one of the reasons why Delaware has, I think, interacted with me and trans rights in a way that has felt a little bit different than politics elsewhere is because I feel like Delaware had a 10 to 15 year conversation about what it was like, what it means to be trans.
I've spent, I had spent a decade doing that. And I think in many ways, one of the reasons why Delaware has, I think, interacted with me and trans rights in a way that has felt a little bit different than politics elsewhere is because I feel like Delaware had a 10 to 15 year conversation about what it was like, what it means to be trans.
And I think one of the challenges that we have in conversations around trans identities that's different than conversations around gay rights is that most people who are straight can understand what it feels like to love and to lust. And so they're able to enter into conversations around sexual orientation with an analogous experience.
And I think one of the challenges that we have in conversations around trans identities that's different than conversations around gay rights is that most people who are straight can understand what it feels like to love and to lust. And so they're able to enter into conversations around sexual orientation with an analogous experience.