Sarah Longwell

not a good person, in my opinion.

Like, I think he has been a malign actor on our politics, and I think he does overall more damage.

That doesn't mean that Tucker Carlson doesn't have an audience and doesn't play a role in helping to sort of fracture that coalition.

And so sometimes amplifying his disagreements, he is a particular kind of messenger for people.

But that's like a utility.

It's not, hey, let's have them in the coalition.

And because there is no

But also because there is no gatekeeping around the coalition, right?

Like there's nobody who decides – I mean the DNC can decide who speaks at a – who gets a platform.

But like – and that was sort of my argument with Tim around Piker was –

I felt like Tim and Tim knows this.

I don't want to like speak out of school because he's not here to defend himself.

But I felt like he was kind of downplaying some of the toxicity of the things that Piker was saying.

And more than that, I just cared about on our platform.

I didn't want it to sound like we didn't have a clear sense of who this guy is and what he is saying and what he talks about.

But, like, if that guy says, I like John Ossoff because I agree with his views on this, well, then, like, okay.

That's... So I just... This idea of people being gatekeepers on this stuff... But I do think we should all, as moral actors...

be gatekeepers about what is right and what is wrong.

And so for me, if my lines are liberal versus illiberal, then when people are using violent rhetoric, if they side with terrorists or want to, you know, pump up terrorists or celebrate them in ways or the Chinese communist government or Putin's annexation of Crimea, you know, or that, you know, 9-11 happening was a what was it?

America deserved 9-11.