Sarah Marshall

And we're kind of at peak food trend because I feel like... Do you feel like every time you're on social media, someone's like...

let's try the viral recipe for a thing you've never heard of.

And you're like, oh yeah, of course, the viral recipe I've never heard of.

And in the olden days, it took at least a few months for something, specifically a recipe, to work its way through the newspaper and word of mouth and so on.

And I just, I love trends in food as a way of learning about what people were going through and continue to go through and almost...

hilariously repeating cycles and so we're going to talk about desperation pies desperation pies and cake and so forth yeah i immediately love this and is it desperation as in like the great depression or is it desperation in like more of an existential way

Here's what's great, right, is that I've definitely always heard about like water pie and vinegar pie.

Exactly.

And Ritz cracker pie.

Ritz cracker.

Mock apple pie.

Which is which is mock apple pie.

Yeah.

Which was on the box for Ritz crackers through the 90s, apparently, or until the 90s.

Yeah.

Which I really like that they were like, yeah, we know you want to make the pie.

You're desperate to make the pie.

But yeah, I have always heard of them as depression pies, but they are even more deeply within that desperation pies because I think like the pies I just named were all being made.

Well, not Ritz pie because Ritz crackers were invented and rolled out in 1934.

I think they're a depression cracker through and through.